Dear Debian-Developers

As strolling along this thread, what is on my mind I am still quite upset about the security guidelines set by the developers of Debian or any distro based upon Debian. For a while I have been really blissed using squeeze. No trouble at all with almost nothing, but using wheezy trouble came up with any pluggable usb-device beside the tricky UEFI scrap, that makes it quite an effort to work around, if you don't install twice a day a system. By the way it seems, that any usb-stick that has been in contact with wheezy comes along the way back to squeeze with the new guidelines for security, it can't be mounted, as non root, just as it is not possible to type umount, unplugging it. So here comes one suggestion, to avoid future struggle installing it
(yep the new system!), whatever name it has. Why they don't opt for rolling releases. Make a final number nine or ten, and afterwards just leave it to the user if or not to update. I wanted to write down my truly hard discovery tour as a real beginner installing my scanner years ago, after a fortnight it worked and my article since then has been read many times. This was quite simple after two weeks to find out a simple twist of the vendor ID. But the new security features, even in Jessie make me nuts.

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I started moving away from Debian-based distros after Ubuntu introduced Unity. Way too much overhead, just like most other Debian distros in my own experience. I've been an Arch Linux user for a few years now. Lol

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yes, it seems to me as if the so called freeze for all maintainers and developers occured too early last november, so thats why I am stuck almost daily in a program freezing and simply sleeping. Simple programs like gedit and evince causing a complete freezing. Expecting the worst while hoping for the best, waiting for Stinky Pete, maybe.

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What mirror did you configure apt with?

Something worse than bad applications is happening if you're experiencing complete system freezes. That sounds more like a kernel problem, or perhaps an X problem.

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Srry directed at wrong Member

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I had a problem with apt not hitting or claiming hits with no substance. I've tried many thing's and am running great with much available to me. I laid the .sqhaushfs LuKs4 down on a Partion Sliced in the Boch's partition table format I don't know If it truly truly bochs as i modified a mac partion program to collect new partion tables it run's across...and it's not without flaws because some times option's are greyed and sometimes gone completely. Boch's is working for me I even trie Linux Plain Text Partition table Scheme.

Regards,
jao1488

Simple programs like gedit or evince should not freeze, no matter which distribution you are using.

I'm using debian for 4 years now, i haven't noticed anything like that.
Even using systemd now (since jessie) with advanced multiseat configuration (2 keyboards, 2 mice, APU and GPU, 1 PC).

What is your hardware configuration ?
You might consider install a firmware-linux-nonfree package, if your hardware is on this list :
https://packages.debian.org/jessie/firmware-linux-nonfree

If you did all of the above, including a memtest, please offer a strace if you can when process freezes. For instance strace gedit and simulate a freeze if you can.

Hope that helps
Regards
Peasant.

@ Corona688
while still getting acquainted to Jessie, on my wheezy 7.8 there is a kernel-version of 3.2.0-4-amd64. Beeing aware, the kernel-bakery is not that very easy to handle, I will wait for running some updates.

To cut a long story short, not to continue the discussion about sysyemd, as there are plenty around, but reading about it in this link

https://wiki.debian.org/systemd\#Installing\_without_systemd

qoute "Systemd is a young project with a strong emphasis on solving problems in a distribution agnostic manner. " THE best joke seems to be to have an agnostic approach. I really doubt if someone like Lenart is an philosopher, or just had a glance at this term in ms encarta.

@d0wngrade yes, that is truely a good idea, these days I am saying farewell to debian, moving over to freeBSD. I still do not understand why canonical and debian are getting twinbrothers. And I think there is one real advantage, at least for me, it is more or less easy going to handle the /etc/resolv.conf.

Interesting, I have been quite happy using Debian for quiet a while now. Nice thing about Linux is that you have the freedom to switch to what works for you.

I'll keep Debian for a few more years. :slight_smile: