Should We Keep or Drop the Bottom Toolbar?

Well, it's been a few months now since we started running the toolbar on the bottom with some navigation menu, search, link to code tag video, some social networking tools, etc.

So, the question of the day is:

Should we keep it, maybe develop more toolbar apps, or dump it?

Please vote and also comment.

Thanks!

I'm not a heavy user of it, but when I do use it it does things that aren't easy to get at through the forum itself. I was skeptical of it at first but I'd miss it if it were gone.

Someday I've got to get around to writing a man page app for the toolbar. That would be useful, I think.

Hi Neo,

I for one find it quite useful, especially the recent posts tab.

Regards

Dave

Keep those comments coming, as I have some time between now and the 12th of August, and am thinking to code some new features for the site; but I'm not sure what everyone would like to see.

Someone suggested coding a man page app for the toolbar, and I was thinking to do that if we don't get any "more interesting" suggestions (the recursive man page code I wrote for the forums is really some sloppy coding, and I dread to go back and have to redo it all for a toolbar app!)

OK, have added some beta man page functionality to the member tool bar. See this thread:

The toolbar item i use by far most is the "Mod Comments" cut&paste-template, which i find very, very, useful. I don't want to decide if this justifies the whole effort. I probably could have come up with a solution for that myself, but somehow never got around to it, so i find that very convenient.

Another thing i use is the "Mod Queue", which is also a convenient thing to have and is not (easily) accessible from the top menu.

For most of the other things in the toolbar i tend to use the "top menu" in the header part instead, simply out of habit.

Bottom line: i would miss the functionality mentioned if the toolbar would be gone but don't care if it is available through a tool bar or a menu. If the functionality could be included in the top menu i wouldn't miss the tool bar at all.

bakunin

Hi.

I never saw it until I told NoScript to allow it just now. I see its utility, but for the time being I have it minimized.

Potentially useful for me,yet takes up some real estate.

Apologies for being late to the party, so still evaluating it ... cheers, drl

Didn't use it much but the mod comments for code tags etc. too, that's helpful :slight_smile: Keep it! :smiley:

Most options available in the toolbar are easily accessible from elsewhere too. I presume, long time users would be comfortable navigating to those pages the conventional way. Thus said, it really don't matter to me, if it's there or not ( only thing is, if you're planning on keeping it, please retain the option to disable it too :smiley: )

We definitely plan to keep the option to disable the toolbar and also plan to add more options to disable other features when members think important.

Based on the various forums I visit, we are the only forum that works to insure options and features are manageable by the members. Most forums "out there" would never add an option to disable a feature if i sent them a request; and most add new features without adding any option to turn it off.

So, i think we are unique in that we really try to think about our members and insure they have a choice on what features to enable and disable.

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Hi,

I think most of the people will love it and find it handy. And, if not, then we can click on 'minimize toolbar'. I say, let's keep it.

Thanks,
VB

Amen to that! This is what sets apart our forum from the myriads of others, IMHO.

In principle this is true, but there is always the performance argument: any new feature will cost resources in one or other way while introducing a new (if slight) risk of making something break. To keep the forum as fast and reliable as possible Neo tries to determine not only if the people are annoyed by it or not, but also, if the effort matches the positive effect. If not enough people really use this or any other feature (even a minority might be "enough" in this sense) then it makes sense not to offer an opt-out but to deinstall it.

bakunin

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For performance reasons, and since unregistered users cannot opt out of the toolbar, I am thinking we should disable the toobar for unregistered guests.

Edit: Update.... disabled toolbar for unregistered guests (for now).