LTO5 Catridge 1.5 TB Natvie capactiy unable to hold 1.44TB data in one volume

Hi,

LTO5 Data cartridge has 1.5 TB (1500GB) native capacity but when we are taking our 1.44 TB (1475 GB) filesystem backup using backupby filename on these data cartridges it does not fully finish on one cartridge instead it requires another volume to backup the remaining files. I am unable to find out why this happens as we have already 25B less size of filesystem then the capacity of cartridge. For the resolution of this we have reduced our back up filesystem down-to 1375 GB in order to complete it on one volume. :confused:

Note that filesystem is backupby filename having default block size 51200 bytes (100 blocks).

Terabyte vs Tebibyte perhaps?

1.5TB is approximately 1.4TiB...

Its Terabyte

besides the data, there is also metadata being stored. that must be the drop that is overflowing the tape (bucket).

hope this helps.

Michael its OK fine that metadata is acquiring that space on tape but we noted this happens some times not all the times.
We faced problem again from last two days that our total data filesystem size is 1200GB & we are taking the backup of the same on LTO5 which has capacity of 1500GB. For the resolution of this we further moved our data from filesystem & bring the filesystem size down to 1000GB & took the backup which was successful. I am unable to understand what amount of metatdata was written on tape. Before LTO 5 we were taking 750 GB filessytem size backup on LTO4 which has native capacity of 800GB and we didn't face problem on that. But I don't know what happens with the LTO5.

I can only speculate as you haven't described your environment completely.

What exactly do you mean by "backup by filename"? Might it be that you have sparse files on this filesystem which get expanded during the backup? (This would mean the restore would also fail because the FS won't provide enough space to accomodate the expanded file(s).)

I hope this helps.

bakunin

Many people have issues with LT05 capacities. You mention that your tape drive is 1.5TB native. Does that mean that it's circa 3TB with compression?? What model of LT05 is it exactly? Is hardware compression enabled on it?

Also, what is your backup utility? Are you using tar or cpio or some backup suite? With Unix commands you can normally set the tape capacity and, if you do that, the number of bytes backed up is "counted" as the tape is written and the command calls for a new volume when that number of bytes is reached. It has nothing to do with hitting the actual end-of-tape or anything like that. With some backup suites the tape capacity is often set in a configuration file somewhere.

As other respondees have said, please post more information of your configuration.

Meantime, search for "LT05 compression" on the web.

In this example the discussion covers not getting the 1.5TB capacity even with compression switched off (ie, native) and reformatting tapes to resolve.
LTO5 Tape is not using the complete capacity of 1,5TB (uncompressed) + Compression not working | Symantec Connect Community

Hope that helps. Please post your progress or lack of progress.

OS : AIX
Version : 6100-08-02-1316
Filesystem Size which will be backed up: 1400 GB
LTO5 Cartridge Size : 1.5TB Native 3 TB Compressed
LTO5 Tape drive Attributes:
Software Compression: Using compress command
Command used to backup files: find * -print|backup -ivf '/dev/rmt0' '-U'

alt_pathing       no                    Enable Alternate Pathing Support                True
autoload          no                    Use Autoloading Feature at End-of-Tape          True
block_size        0    Block Size (0=Variable Length)                  True
compress          yes                   Use Hardware Compression on Tape                True
debug_trace       no                    Debug Trace Logging Enabled                     True
dev_status                              N/A                                             False
devtype           ULT3580-              Device Type                                     False
hh_refresh        yes                   Half height refresh Drive                       False
location                                Location                                        True
logging           no                    Activate volume information logging             True
lun_id            0x0                   Logical Unit Number                             True
max_log_size      500    Maximum size of log file (in # of entries)      True
new_name                                New Logical Name                                True
node_name         0x2001000e111484e1    World Wide Node Name                            False
primary_device    rmt0                  Primary Logical Device                          False
reserve_key                             Persistent Reservation Key                      True
reserve_type      reserve_6             Reservation Type                                True
retain_reserve    no                    Retain Reservation                              True
rew_immediate     no                    Use Immediate Bit in Rewind Commands            True
scsi_id           0x40fe1               SCSI Target ID                                  True
space_mode        SCSI                  Backward Space/Forward Space Record Mode        True
sys_encryption    no                    Use System Encryption FCP Proxy Manager         True
trace_logging     yes                   Trace Logging Enabled                           True
trailer_labels    no                    Trailer Label Processing                        True
wrt_encryption    custom                System Encryption for Write Commands at BOP     True
ww_name    0x2002000e111484e1    World Wide Port Name                            False

Method:
We have an empty filesystem having size 1400GB. We ftp all the dump files in this filesystem which were already compressed on other AIX lpars using compress command. When the 1400GB filesytem gets 100% full we start taking the backup on LTO5 cartridge using find * -print|backup -ivf '/dev/rmt0' '-U'

This is the whole procedure.

This sheds a little more light onto the problem. Unfortunately it rules out my suggestion, because backup - unlike tar - will not expand sparse files. I am not sure how compress handles these.

As you have hardware compression enabled i suggest not using compress on the original files, because they can't compressed two times anyway. Let the hardware in the tape drive deal with compression and save CPU time.

I have to admit this will not solve the enigma, but it should improve matters nevertheless.

I hope this helps.

bakunin

But let me inform you our uncompressed total data size is 1350 GB & when we compress the the data files it will become around 200 GB. So with the the help of compress we are able to hold 5-6 days data in a 1400 GB filesystem which will be backed up on cartridge once in a week. It is also save our storage space for not holding uncompressed data which is huge in size.

I see you are using the -v argument

Further, as the files are already compressed I would disable hardware compression - since it is unlikely it is giving you much assistance.

Together with the -v option you should be able to determine who much space backup thinks it has written to the device.

Some things to clarify: you can compress a file only once. If you use the utility "compress" (or "gzip", "bzip2" or any other packing program), you have compressed it once, using some CPU time to do so. If you want to restore it you will need CPU time too to uncompress it.

If you use the hardware compression, on the other hand, you will still compress it (and about the same ratio as with "compress"), but use no CPU time to do so. The same, when you restore it.

The size data for the LTO5 tape are pure estimations. OK, 1500GB of uncompressed size is a fact, but "3000GB compressed" simply means: we estimate that our average packing rate will be 1:2, regardless of what is thrown in the drives way, so we say it has 1500 x 2 = 3000GB of compressed capacity. In reality the compression ratio one really achieves varies widely, depending on what a file contains. Picture data like bitmaps usually can easily be compressed by a factor of 1:10, the same with DB-files, while executable files give considerably lower ratios, typically ~1:2 with a LZ78-based algorithm.

That means: if you use solely hardware compression will put you in about the same situation as now or as using software compression (the "compress" utility) alone. Everything else is just a waste of resources, because in your current situation the software compression does all the work and the hardware compression achieves most likely absolutely nothing.

I hope this helps.

bakunin